Old Hippie’s Levels of Consciousness Scale

On /r/trees, there’s a “highness scale” that people use to indicate how high they are. I love all the Ents at /r/trees, and Im’a let you finish, but that scale is not quite the most useful scale of all time, because it’s relative. I realize none of this is completely scientific, and that everything is relative, and all that kind of stuff, but “10 is the highest you’ve ever been in your life” doesn’t quite cut it for me, because I’ve seen a lot of ups and downs and everyone else will too. So I prefer to use a scale with known points on it, as far as is possible.

For levels 0 through 10, you should use this chart, which is as good as anything else I’ve found. It was originally created by Talisman, whoever s/he is, and I’ve actually searched to give better credit. I typed it in from this image, which I consider to be the actual source (or a copy, anyway) and much more artistic than my mere words.

0 Sober: completely normal, you feel nothing out of the ordinary.

1-2 Buzzed: you can tell you are slightly high, things are more interesting, everything seems “thicker”.

3-4 High: you are high, slight craving for food, you tend to stare at objects and into space often, you feel relaxed but somewhat in a daze.

5-6 Really High: you are fully high, there is a slight vibration in your body, focusing is hard, you’re having very random thoughts. Putting together sentences is a challenge. Few if any audial hallucinations.

7-8 Blazed/Stoned: very high, vibrations and waves of euphoria rush through your body every 5 to 9 seconds. Expeiencing mild CEVs, everything dark has a sparkling texture, everything is brighter. Some audial hallucinations.

9-10 In Space: completely lost in thought, amazing pleasure, you feel like a god, you see strong CEVs, sparkling textures everywhere, everything is brightened, mild/strong audial hallucinations.

My scale merges with and attempts to extend Talisman’s scale even further into the cosmic realm. I do not attempt to catalog the exact physical/mental effects, the way Talisman did, because it’s not necessary or even possible from this point on. If you’ve reached these levels, you will understand, and if you haven’t…you will understand when you do reach them. It’s based on a lot of experience (almost 45 years), not to mention the unexpected trip I took yesterday, in which all the following information was dumped into my brain like Buckaroo Banzai in the phone booth.

10. This is the top level high you should expect from smoking marijuana. If you can move at all, it is not very fast. If you’re not standing up…don’t even try.

11. You have found the “secret level”! You didn’t think you could get this high by smoking marijuana, and you’re right, because…you cannot generally get here without edibles. You are totally on the verge of tripping, but aren’t. It is intense as fuck but still light and happy. This is the same level as an “acid high”, which you experience on an LSD trip both on the way up and on the way down.

12. You are now tripping. Congratulations and try to hold it together.

13. You are tripping and losing control. If you don’t manage to keep control at this level (or above), you may well lose your mind temporarily or even permanently, and/or find yourself in an emergency room or mental institution. If you are on LSD (or similar), this is the part usually called “peaking”.

14. You have made it past the danger zone, mostly. But you can re-enter it at any time, literally with a single thought. You can also become totally enlightened with a single thought. This level and the next three are otherwise indescribable, and they (and your experiences) differ mainly based on the dosage you have taken…each level is essentially a doubling of the previous dosage.

15. This is the farthest/highest I have ever been, and it took 1,000 micrograms of LSD to get me there. Once is plenty, thank you!

16. Dude…

17. I can’t even…

18. You have now merged your consciousness with the universe. You no longer need the Internet to share thoughts with others. You are also stone cold dead, completely alive, a bumblebee, a flower, a cat, Buddha, Jesus Christ, an alien, and God…simultaneously.

Intergalactic, man.
Intergalactic, man.



None of these levels actually require drugs, but a lot depends on your actual body, blood, and brain chemistry (some people were just not born to be the Buddha…and some were).

Most experiences have a general “cruising altitude” with some parts at a somewhat higher level (generally one or two levels higher). Most people cite the “cruising altitude” but it’s the highest level on their experience that they will remember, because it’s the part that scared them the most, generally 🙂

Why 11 for the secret level? Do you really have to ask?

Why 13 for bad trips? I guess it goes with all the other 13-phobia 🙂

Why 18 for the top of the scale? Probably from all the meanings of 18.

If you’re into psychedelic philosophy, 12 and 13 are theoretically the same level…as is 14. Just remember that once you’re actually tripping, it’s like running on a spinning soccer ball glowing from the inside…any disturbance or loss of control will likely cause you grief, and you don’t want to find out how bad it can be.

Very few people make it to Level 18. If you are reasonably well educated, at least in terms of world cultures, then you already know most of their names…

About Old Hippie

http://gplus.to/OldHippie Old Hippie is a father of two boys and thankfully living in California where all this kind of thing is legal. He started smoking marijuana in 1967 in high school, experimented with mind-expanding drugs of all kinds, and then straightened out 15 or so years later to become an airplane pilot. After being diagnosed with depression in 2000, he lost his job and most of the following decade to prescription medications (such as antidepressants) which sapped his energy and will. Finally, a chance conversation with a friend led to a doctor’s recommendation for medical marijuana (MMJ). This changed his entire life, health, and outlook for the better. BeyondChronic.com is his continuing story. It’s also his way to provide experienced advice on using medical marijuana effectively and responsibly, as well as advocacy, activism, and support for others. Old Hippie teaches about safe use of cannabis edibles, Canna Caps, vaporizers, dosing, and even microdosing.


Is there a way to separate your life’s energy from your earth body without laying waste to the physical being?
I think it would be more comfortable to do this trip with someone I’m compatible with on a more cosmic level. Or a “soul mate” in religious terms, if you will.
But to imply there’s destiny would be denying us free will.
Have things throughout history happened because they were meant to happen?
Did so many people have to suffer so we can get to where we are not.
Oh, jeez. My cat is really staring down at me.
I really think they know.
I had one cat that would jump on my lap when she’d see me sitting in my smoking chair. She’d sniff the bowl as it slowly smoldered. I’d set down the piece and she’d lay on my chest, her purring somehow in correlation (correct use?) with the beats of my heart.
Trip balls, did I.
Weirdest and most intense trip ever.
I didn’t ascend time and place that night, but I was damn close and I know the cat was going to lead me. If there hadn’t have been other people in the room, I think I would have.

tl;dr – Smoke with a cat you trust.

That is awesome. Your cat sounds like she’s definitely one of those, too. I think you could probably trust her as a trip guide.

I’m working my way up towards posting yet another trip I just had involving cats…I think you’ll like it!

You can do what you first described with Astral Projection. Look it up.
If you really want to be gone, look into DMT. Go to erowid.org for information on psychoactives like DMT.

Awsome site…. The scariest part of all is ‘no’…you dont need any drugs to reach this state, elimenate all vices and your dna clears the way for pure consciousness to rise on up….oh it’s heavenly! however one must be isolate for some time removing all chemical attachments, allowing the brain to form new neurological path ways to experience this bliss, and that my friend’s seems to be humans greatest challenge… once your there it can be lonley for a bit, but thats when you begin to create the characters you would like to share the journey with, on your descent back down to earth…if you have learnt your earthly lesson’s these characters will be of good, pure nature like your’s. Now you create a life in pure truth and light, Just like the ‘Dark Crystal’ tells us to.
Good being

MAaaaan, I went up to level 18…once. And dude, it was awesome. I came totally alive. Like SUPER awake. I saw the Earth as it really is, and the sun…shit, that shits just a huge ball of fire. It was awesome to be in the third person. I did feel like God, it’s true. But everything is God, but I touched something man. Intense joy. Anyway, I was 27 and that day I consider the most important day of my life. Oh, about the rebirth thing in christianity, yeah…it WAS like being born again. I recommend reaching Nirvana to anyone.

And then there’s the level of high where you literally read everything in the comments and your secret mission is to tell everyone this while you’re high

Thats the thing. I took 2 very small pulls. I instantly burst into laughter and then within 1 minute my boddy was what seemed to be unconscious. I couldn’t remember anything about my life, and I could feelmy body traveling downward. I got to a dark dark place (literally) and could here diff voices talking to me. As I start to travel back up, I started forgetting everything that I saw/heard. It was almost the same as when u wake up from a dream nd forget. I just remember being really scared, thinking my life was over.

Are you sure that was just weed? It sounds more like DMT, or perhaps K2/spice/”synthetic marijuana”.

If it was just weed…sounds like it’s not compatible with you and I wouldn’t try it again. But this kind of reaction would be extremely rare.

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